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Last night we ask the candidates on this stage to name the greatest geopolitical threat facing the U. Four of them mentioned China. I think that, first of all, the biggest—the biggest threat to our national security right now is Russia, not China. When I—when I—when I see these kids at the border, I see my mom because I know she sees herself because she was separated from her parents for years during the holocaust in Poland. Yang, let me bring you in on this on the issue of China. Are you worried about China?

And, if so, how would you stand up against it? But the tariffs and the trade war are just punishing businesses and producers and workers on both sides. And the beneficiaries have not been American workers or—or people in China. So, we need to—to crack down on Chinese malfeasance in the trade relationship but the tariffs and the trade war are the wrong way to go. This is not something to dismiss or wave away. And if you look at what China is doing. I live in the industrial Midwest. And manufacturers, and especially soy farmers, are hurting.

Tariffs are taxes. Meanwhile, China is investing so that they could soon be able to run circles around us in artificial intelligence. And this president is fixated on the China relationship as if all that mattered was the export balance on dishwashers. But in a moment when their authoritarian model is being held up as an alternative to ours because ours looks so chaotic compared to theirs right now because of our internal divisions.

If we disinvest—. And if we really want to be an alternative, a democratic alternative, we actually have to demonstrate that we care about democratic values—. When we come back the questioning continues about college, Chuck Todd and Rachel Maddow will be here.

Much more with our candidates straight ahead. Welcome back to the Presidential Democratic debates at our center in Miami. As we bring in the questioning we want to bring in more members of our team. Definitely the first time. Thank you, Lester, Savannah and Jose. We heard from 10 of them from last night.

We are hearing from 10 more tonight. Breakdown for each night was selected at random candidates will have 60 seconds to answer direct questions, 30 seconds for follow-ups if necessary. Because of this large field of candidates not every person will be able to comment on everything but the less audience reaction there is the more time they will all get.

Over the course of the next hour we will hear from all of these candidates. We are going to begin this hour with Mayor Buttigieg. In the last five years civil rights activists in our country have led a national debate over race and the criminal justice system. Your community of South Bend, Indiana has recently been in uproar over an officer involved shooting.

The police force in South Bend is now 6 percent black in a city that is 26 percent black. Why has that not improved over your two terms as mayor? My community is in anguish right now because of an officer involved shooting. A black man Eric Logan killed by a white officer. This is an issue that is facing our community and so many communities around the country. And until we move policing out from the shadow of systemic racism whatever this particular incident teaches us we will be left with the bigger problem of the fact that there is a wall of mistrust put up one racist act at a time.

It threatens the well being of every community. And I am determined to bring about a day when a white person driving a vehicle and a black person driving a vehicle when they see a police officer approaching feels the exact same thing. A feeling not of fear but of safety. I think that the question they are asking in South Bend I think across the country is why is it taking so long? We had a shooting when I first became mayor 10 years before Ferguson and the community came together and we created an office of the independent monitor—civilian oversight commission. We diversified the police force in two years.

We actually did de-escalation training. And I accept responsibility for that—. So, under Indiana law this will be investigated. And there will be accountability for the officer involved. All of these issues are extremely important but there are specifics, there are symptoms. And the underlying cause has to do with deep, deep, deep realms of racial injustice. Both in our criminal justice system and in our economic system.

And the democratic party should be on the side of reparations for slavery for this very reason. I do not believe—I do not believe that the average American is a racist. But the average American is woefully undereducated about the history of race in the United States. Hang on. Go for 30 seconds. I—there is not a black man I know, be he a relative, a friend or a coworker who has not been the subject of some form of profiling or discrimination.

I do not believe you are a racist and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. And I—I was actually very—it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose bussing. And you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bussed to school every day and that little girl was me.

So, I will tell you that on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among democrats. We have to take it seriously. We have to act swiftly. As attorney general of California, I was very proud to put in place a—a requirement that all my special agents would wear body cameras and keep those cameras on. I did not praise racists. That is not true, number one. I was a public defender. I came out and I left a good law firm to become a public defender when in fact —. King, number one. Now, number two, as the U.

But—so, the bottom line here is, look, everything I have done in my career—I ran because of civil rights. I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights. I did not oppose bussing in America. What I opposed is bussing ordered by the Department of Education. I did not oppose—. I was part of the second class to integrate, Berkley, California Public Schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education. Because your city council made that decision. It was a local decision.

Vice President Biden 30 seconds because I want to bring other people into this. I—I supported the ERA from the very beginning. I am the guy that extended the voting rights act for 25 years. We got to the place where we got 98 out of 98 votes in the United States Senate doing it. I have also argued very strongly that we in fact deal with the notion of denying people access to the ballot box. I agree that everybody once they in fact—my time is up. Senator Sanders—Senator Sanders, I want to go to you on this.

Any Democrats are very excited by the diversity of this field on this stage and on last night stage and the perspective that diverse city brings to this contest and to these issues. Are you telling Democratic voters that diverse city should it matter when they make this decision? No, absolutely not.

Unlike the Republican party we encourage diverse city, we believe in diverse city, that is what America is up about. We need a party that is diverse but we need a party that has the guts to stand up to the powerful special interest who have so much power over the economic and political life of this country. Well, first of all where Bernie left off we have heard a lot of good ideas on this stage tonight and a lot of plans but the truth is until you go to the root of the corruption, the money in the—in politics, the fact that Washington is run by these special interest you are never going to solve any of these problems.

I have the most comprehensive approach that experts agree is the most transformative plan to actually take on political corruption to get money out of politics through publicly funded elections, to have clean elections. The first constitutional amendment to do that was introduced by me when I was a young senator. Thank—thank you vice president. I want to shift topics here. Senator Bennet, the next question is for you. On the issue of partisan gridlock President Obama promised in that after his reelection Republicans would want to work with Democrats, fever would break.

That did not happen. Now Vice President Biden is saying the same thing that if he is elected in both parties will want to work together. Should voters believe that somehow if there is a Democratic President in that gridlock is going to magically disappear? Gridlock will not magically disappear as long as Mitch McConnell is there, first. Second, second, that is why it is so important for us to when not just the presidency to have somebody that can run in all 50 states but to—but to win the Senate as well and that is why we have to propose policies that can be supported like Medicare X PH so that we can build a broad coalition of Americans to overcome broken Washington DC.

I agree with what Senator Gillibrand was saying and share a lot of her views. We need to in gerrymandering in wash—and we need to end political gerrymandering in Washington. We need to overturn Citizens United. The court was the one that gave us Citizens United. And the attack on voting rights in Shelby versus Holder is something we need to deal with. All of those things has happened since Vice President Biden was in the Senate.

And we face structural problems that we have to overcome with a broad coalition. I have seen what happened just sense we were vice president. I got three votes changed. We needed to be able to keep the government from shutting down and going bankrupt. And as recently as after the President got elected, I was able to put together a coalition on the Cures Act that billions of dollars go into cancer research, bipartisan. Sometimes you just have to go out and beat them. I went into 20 states, over 60 candidates—. We—sometimes you do have to beat them, but—but the deal that he talked about with Mitch McConnell was a complete victory for the Tea Party.

It extended the Bush tax cuts permanently. The Democratic Party had been running against that for 10 years.


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That was a great deal for Mitch McConnell. You heard it. They actually said those words. And I have the most comprehensive approach to do it with clean elections, publicly funded elections so we restore the power of our democracy into the hands of the voters, not into the Koch brothers. We were talking about issues. Imagine the Parkland kids having as much power in our democracy—. Roe versus Wade has been the law of the land since Now that there is a conservative majority on the Supreme Court, several Republican controlled state have passed laws to severely restrict or even ban abortion.

What is your plan if row is struck down in the court while your president? We will do everything we can to defense our—Roe versus Wade. You asked about litmus test. My litmus test is I will never appoint any—nominate any justice to the Supreme Court unless that justice is percent clear he or she will defend Roe v.

But I do believe that constitutionally we have the power to rotate judges to other courts. And that brings in new blood into the supreme court and a majority I hope that will understand that a woman has the right to control her own body and that corporations cannot run the United States of America. All of the things you have described would be to try to preserve Roe. If Roe was gone what could you do as president to preserve abortion rights? And can I just address this for a second?

Thirty states are trying to overturn Roe v. Wade right now. And it is mind boggling to me that we are debating this on this stage in among democrats whether women should have access to reproductive rights. I think we have to stop playing defense and start playing offense.

But let me tell you one thing about politics because it goes to the corruption of the deal making—when the door is closed negotiations are made. A compromise by leaders of both parties. Then we have the ACA. Senator Harris, addressing you first on this. Obvious of the state as well. Last night, voters heard many of the candidates weigh in on their proposals, explain specifically what yours is. It represents an existential threat to us as a species. And the fact that we have a President of the United States who has embraced science fiction over science fact will be to our collective peril.

I visited while the embers were smoldering the wildfires in California I spoke with firefighters who were in the midst of fighting a fire while their own homes were burning. And on this issue it is a—it is a critical issue that is about what we must do to confront what is immediate and before us right now.

That is why I support a Green New Deal. It is why I believe on day one and as President will re-enter us in the Paris agreement because we have to take these issues seriously and frankly, we have a President of the United States we talked about you asked before what is the greatest national security threat to the United States?

He denies the science. You want to talk about North Korea, real threat in terms of nuclear arsenal but what doe she do? He embraces Kim Jong Un a dictator. History where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people. Thank—thank you Vice president. Bennet, the next question is for you. On the issue of partisan gridlock Pres. Obama promised in that after his reelection Republicans would want to work with Democrats, fever would break.

Should voters believe that somehow if there is a Democratic Pres. Second, second, that is why it is so important for us to when not just the presidency to have somebody that can run in all 50 states but to—but to win the Senate as well and that is why we have to propose policies that can be supported like Medicare X so that we can build a broad coalition of Americans to overcome broken Washington DC. And new science and technology to be the exporter not only of the green economy, but economy that can create millions of jobs.

But, I would immediately rejoin the Paris Climate Accord. I would up the ante in that accord, which it calls for because we make up 15 percent of the problem; 85 percent of the world makes up the rest. And so, we have to have someone who knows how to corral the rest of the world, bring them together, and get something done like we did in our administrator. Look, the old ways are no longer relevant.

This is a global issue. Pass the torch. John Kennedy said, by the end of this decade, we are going to put a man on the moon—. It included imagination. And it included great dreams and included great plans. And I have a career not making the political plans, but I have had a career harnessing the inspiration and the motivation and the excitement of people. We are—. All right? President Obama, in his first year, wanted to address both healthcare and climate and he could only get one signature issue accomplished. It was, obviously, healthcare. For Parkland, for Orlando, for every community effected by gun violence, ending gun violence.

Passing a family bill of rights that includes a national paid leave plan, universal Pre-K, affordable daycare and making sure that women and families can thrive in the workplace no matter who they are. People have got to stand up and take on the special interests. We can transform this country. The first—the first thing I would do is make sure that we defeat Donald Trump. Mayor Buttigieg, your first priority, your first issue as president that you are going to block and tackle?

Get that right and climate, immigration, taxes and every other issue gets better. And I would tell her, girlfriend, you are so wrong because the United States of America is going to be the best place—. You guys were close with the short—at least it was shorter. Welcome back to the democratic candidates debate in Miami. We are going to continue the questioning now with Lester in the audience.

We are in a second going to have a question from Lester in the audience. That was just a fake out. Congressman Swalwell, among this field of candidates you have a unique position on gun reform. How do you envision that working especially in states where gun rights are a flashpoint? Keep your pistols, keep your rifles, keep your shotguns but we can take the most dangerous weapons from the most dangerous people. They would all leave 15 million assault in our communities.

I will approach this issue as a prosecutor. A generation who has seen thousands of black children killed in our streets and a generation who goes to the theater and we actually where the fire exits are. We must be a country who loves our children more than we love our guns.

Has your thinking changed since then? We have a gun—we have a gun crisis right now. I have a D minus voting record from the NRA. And I believe that what we need is comprehensive gun—gun legislation that, among other things, provides universal background. We end the gun show loophole. We end the straw man provision. And I believed in and I believe today that assault weapons—. You would—your plan leaves them on the streets. You leave 15 million on the streets. I think your idea is a great one, Congressman Swalwell.

And I will say there are a lot of great idea. The problem is Congress has not had the courage to act, which is why, when elected president of the United States, I will give the United States Congress days to pull their act together, bring all these good ideas together, and put a bill on my desk for signature. And if they do not, I will take executive action and I will put in place—. I will require the ATF to take the licenses of gun dealers who violate the law.

I have hugged more mothers who are the mothers of homicide victims, and I have attended more police officer funerals. It is enough. And there have been plenty of good ideas from members of the United States Congress. As president, I will take action. You are the only person on the stage tonight with military experience as a veteran of the Afghanistan war. Will military families—does that inform your thinking on this view? Yeah, of course, because we trained on some of these kinds of weapons.

Look, every part of my life experience informs this, being the mayor of a city where the worst part of the job is dealing with violence. We—we lose a—as many as were lost at Parkland every two or three years in my city alone. And this is tearing communities apart. If more guns made us safer, we be the safest country on earth. And as somebody who trained on weapons of war, I can tell you that there are weapons that have absolutely no place in American cities or neighborhoods in peacetime, ever.

Number two, we increased that background check when—when—during the Obama-Biden administration. And so, folks, look, and I would buy back those weapons. We already started talking about that. We tried to get it done. I think it can be done. And lastly, we should have smart guns.

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No gun should be able to be sold unless your biometric measure could pull that trigger. We can do that. Our enemy is the gun manufacturers, not the NRA, the gun manufacturers. All right, Chuck. This is a question from our viewers. We put some suggestions that asked maybe they could share some of. The question is what do you see as importance early steps in reversing the damage done?

And will put this one to Senator Bennet. What an excellent question. First of all, we have to restore our democracy at home. The rest of the world is looking for us for leadership. And that is what we have to change. And I appreciate the fact that there up here for that reason. He flew to the G20 last night and attacked Japan, Germany, and a third ally of ours without saying anything about North Korea or Russia. Thank you, Senator Bennet. This is a perfect time for me to do another one of —.

This is the perfect time for me to do another one of INAUDIBLE the line and this is what this question is which is you are going to have to re—-you are likely going to have to reset a relationship between America and—and another country or entity if you become president because of—perhaps because of some relationship that you just mentioned about President Trump.

Well, one of my first phone calls would be to call the European leaders and say we are back because I totally understand how important it is that the United States be part of the Western alliance. I—guy here you. Governor Hickenlooper? The first country I would go to but I understand they have been cheating and stealing intellectual property would be China because—.

Yang, we will try to squeeze in a couple of more things before we go to another break. China, we need to cooperate with them on climate change, AI, and other issues, North Korea. We have no idea which of our most important allies he will have pissed off between now and then. What we know is that our relationship—.

We know NATO will fall apart if he is elected for more years it is the single most consequential alliance—. I think it is rebuilding trust in the United Nations and understand that we can solve conflicts without war but with diplomacy. President Trump is hell-bent on starting a war with Iran. My first act will be to engage Iran to stabilize the Middle East and make sure we do not start an unwanted never-ending war. Our European allies and every Latin American country that is willing to have a conversation about how to deal with the refugee crisis.

Thank you all. We have one last question for Vice President Biden tonight. You have made your decades of experience in foreign policy a pillar of your campaign but when the time came to say yes or no on one of the most consequential foreign policy decisions of the last century you voted for the Iraq war. You have sent said you regret that vote but why should voters trust your judgment when it comes to making a decision about taking the country to war the next time? Because once we—once Bush abuse that power what happened was we got elected after that.

I made sure the president turned to me and said Joe, get our combat troops out of Iraq. I was responsible for getting , combat troops out of Iraq and my son was one of them. I also think we should not have combat troops in Afghanistan. It should end. And I thirdly I believe that you are not going to find anybody who has pulled together more of our alliances to deal with what is the real stateless threat out there. We cannot go it alone in terms of dealing with terrorism. That is why we have to repair our alliances.

That is what I would do. That is what I have done and I know how to do it. One of the differences—one of the differences that Joe and I have in our record is Joe voted for that work, I helped lead the opposition to that or which was a total disaster.

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Second of all, I helped lead the effort for the first time to utilize the War Powers Act to get the United States out of these Saudi led intervention in Yemen which is the most horrific humanitarian disaster on Earth. And thirdly let me be very clear, I will do everything I can to prevent a war with Iran which would be far worse than disastrous war with Iraq. Good news is you get more time to talk but I have to sneak in one more break. We are back from Miami. We begin with Congressman Swalwell. Most of the time the diapers smell better. I went to congress at I was the first in my family to go to college and have student loan debt.

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So, I have led the effort to elect the next generation of members of Congress and we have a moment to seize. This is a can do generation. This is a generation that will end climate chaos. This is the generation that will solve student loan debt. And this is the generation that will say enough is enough and end gun violence. This generation demands bold solutions. I have an idea about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not going to be beaten just by insider politics talk. He is going to be beaten by somebody who has an idea what this man has done. This man has reached into the psyche of the American people and he has harnessed fear for political purposes.

So, Mr. I will meet you on that field and, sir, love will win. My mom and her parents came to the United States to rebuild their shattered lives 3—in the only country that they could, years before that my parents family came searching religious freedom here. The ability for one generation to do better than the next is now severely at risk in the United States especially among children living in poverty like the ones I used to work for in the Denver public schools.

And I believe we need to build a broad coalition of Americans to beat Donald Trump and the corruption in Washington and build a new era of—of American democracy and American opportunity. We were the first state to legalize marijuana and we transformed our justice system in the process. We passed universal background checks in a purple state.

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We attack climate change with the toughest methane regulations in the country. If we turn towards socialism, we run the risk of helping to reelect the worst president in American history. Women in America—women in America are on fire. But, our rights are under attack like never before by President Trump and the Republicans who want to repeal Roe v.

Wade, which is why I went to the front lines in Georgia to fight for them. As president, I will take on the fights that no one else will. And I have the most comprehensive approach for getting money out of politics with publicly funded elections to deal with political corruption. Now is not the time to play it safe. Now is not the time to be afraid of first. We need a president who will take on the big challenges even if she stands alone. Join me in fighting for this. First, I want to thank everyone who put me on this stage tonight. I am proof that our democracy still works. Democrats and Americans around the country have one question for their nominee and that is who can beat Donald Trump in That is the right question.

And the right candidate to beat Donald Trump will be solving the problems that got Donald Trump elected and will have a vision of a trickle up economy that is already drawing thousands of disaffected Trump voters, conservatives, independents, and libertarians, as well as Democrats and progressives.

I am that candidate. I can build a much broader coalition to beat Donald Trump. It is not left. It is not right. Well, I—I just want to leave you with a couple of things.

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One, we need a nominee who has the ability to prosecute the case against four more years of Donald Trump and I will do that. Second, this election is about you. This is about your hopes and your dreams and your fears and what wakes you up at in the morning. And when I think about what our country needs, I promise you I will be a president who leads with a sense of dignity, with honest, speaking the truth, and giving the American family all that they need to get through the end of the month in a way that allows them to prosper.

So, I hope to own—earn your support. Please join us at kamalaharris. Nothing about politics is theoretical for me. I have the experience of being in a marriage that exists by the grace of a single vote on the U. I am running because the decisions we make in the next three or four years are going to decide how the next 30 or 40 go and when I get to the current age of the current President in the year I want to be able to look back on these years and save my generation delivered climate solutions, racial equality and an end to endless war.

I suspect people all over the country who are watching this debate are saying these are good people, they have great ideas but how come nothing really changes? How come for the last 45 years wages have been stagnant for the middle class? How come we have the highest rate of childhood poverty?

How come 45 million people still have student debt West Denmark how can three people own more wealth than the bottom half of America? And here is the answer, nothing will change unless we have the guts to take on Wall Street, the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the military industrial complex in the fossil fuel industry.

And lastly we will hear from Vice President Biden.

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Sir, you have 45 seconds. I am running to leave this country because I think it is important we restore the soul of this nation. This President has ripped it out. He is the only President in our history who has equated racist and—and white supremacist with ordinary decent people. He is the only President who is that in engaged and embraced dictators and thumb their nose at our allies. I am secondly running for President because I think we have to restore the backbone of America. The poor and hard-working middle-class people. This is the United States of America.

So, God bless you all and may God protect our troops. We had two nights of spirited debate on a range of issues, 20 candidates in all. We want to thank all the candidates last night and tonight. Seriously it takes guts to run and stick your neck out like this to you guys and to the 10 last night. Thanks for having the guts to do it. I would also like to thank the audience for completely ignoring our suggestion not to react. Good night, everyone, from Miami.

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